Entertainment Weekly said that their worst game of 2012, hands down they picked that one.
DA: I would believe that. And that’s a scathing review from one of the best video game magazines around, [laughs] Entertainment Weekly.
I was watching the “Fallout 3” skit where you guys go and do real life “Fallout 3” stuff, and it was really funny, but the whole time I was filled with so much anxiety because you guys were doing it in front of all these people and you kept getting knocked out, and people would be like, “Are you okay? Are you okay?” Do you guys ever get stressed out while doing that shit in public?
SC: The day before I do it I get physically ill. I don’t feel good. Even the day of I’m always like, “Yeah, I was throwing up this morning.” I’m just like super nervous. And it is never anything like, “Oh, we’re breaking the law,” but it’s just so stressful.
DA: It’s always worse I think in your head before you do it.
RB: Right before.
DA: You imagine the worse case scenario. They are going to call the police, somebody’s going to intervene, they are going to think I’m a criminal, they are going to try to arrest me or detain me or attack me. And then you do it once or twice and a lot of times we go out and no reaction at all. We do four or five takes where we actually build up to what you see in the videos. It’s a lot of us trying something and “Wow, nobody cares. Okay, we got to up the ante; let’s do something crazier!” People still don’t care. Okay. It’s come to points where we get to our wits’ end.
RB: Yeah, you start getting pissed.
SC: You go crazy.
RB: I’m going to go fucking crazy, I’m going to push this shelf over.
DA: Yeah, we’ll go in a store and push a display over. I’m going to go lay face down in the middle of the store until security drags me out by my feet. That’s the only way we are going to get a video.
RB: It’s always nerve-racking right before. I love that. I thrive on that feeling, and it definitely is like a pit in my stomach, but I think for me it’s more of a like I hope we don’t screw up a shot. ‘Cause that’s the thing: Running and gunning it the way that we do, it’s a lot of the time “Did you see when that guy said that thing to me?” and it’s like, “No …”
DA: Yeah, there is no take two. You missed it. Actually a lot of times it’s more nerve-wracking being the cameraman. When you’re in costume, obviously something’s up and worse case scenario, you’re an idiot, Like you can just tell people “I’m stupid,” like, “I’m sorry. I was acting like an idiot, but the explanation is I’m really dumb.” But if you’re the guy with the camera then you’re not the idiot. You’re the guy who has to explain it. You’re obviously catching it, and you’re obviously planning on doing something with it. It’s like you’re the authority when you have the camera.
SC: Not only that but also you’re along for the ride because if Rocco decides he wants to go in the back and start peeing on employees, I have to film that.
RB: That’s an upcoming video. Spoiler alert.
SC: Sorry, but it’s like whatever he is doing, I have to be there with him. Whereas if you are the person in control, I go as far as I’m comfortable. Maybe farther than they are, but it’s like, “Ah, I’m going to go in here and mess this up a little bit and then leave.” I know that but I’m like, “Rocco please.” There have been times where I’m like, “Rocco please. God stop.”
RB: He’s using an example. I really think he hates being the cameraman anytime I am the subject.
SC: I do!
RB: Because I will make sure like, “Okay, I’m going to make sure like I’m going to do this for 20 minutes to make sure we have one good minute of footage.”
DA: Also specifically, [Rocco] is one of the trio who likes to go back into the backroom of stores. That is something he finds funny. Into a supermarket, like the loading dock or where they count all the money for the tills, that’s where he wants to go in costume.
SC: Yeah, and it’s terrifying.
So you guys do another series, “Gamer Girls,” and you guys did it at E3 where you guys dress up as girls and you do like personas where you claim to be gamers but you’re into these kind of like really frilly games, “Harvest Moon.” It’s a weird kind of message. Do you guys think there is this subsection of girls who aren’t really gamers, or do you think all girls have a hard time being true gamers?
DA: The thing about “Harvest Moon,” that is something my character said, and I only said that because there was a girl who worked at a Gamestop that I would go to and everytime I went into that Gamestop she would ask me about some “Harvest Moon” related thing. Like do I want to preorder “Harvest Moon,” did I play the latest “Harvest Moon”? That is the only game specifically this one girl would talk about. If that applies to all girls, that is just by coincidence. [laughs] It was a very specific impersonation.
RB: No, I don’t think we think that hard about it. We just try to make goofy characters. I would say the only thing that we guess we were trying to poke fun at, we encountered a lot of people getting into E3 that were not really qualified. Like just in terms of the prep, like, “Oh I have a YouTube channel and I’m here,” but like Will Wright who’s like an amazing icon in video gaming, his team couldn’t get into E3 and stuff like that. I think we wanted to make some jokes like, that isn’t really something about girls; it was just us being …
DA: That happens in all walks of life. Guys can’t get into clubs, and girls who are too young to even drink get in to the club without presenting ID. It happens in games, it happens all over. I think we were just portraying no one in particular. It was a caricature; really extreme girls who happen to be into video games but they are really girlie as well. I’m a big fan personally of “Kids in the Hall,” so for me it was like guys in “Kids in the Hall” dress up as girls all the time, and it’s super funny, so it was like, “Let’s put on wigs. Let’s try it.” Standard comedy.
If you guys were forced to fight a video game character to the death, which one would you fight to the death? Anyone living or dead.
RB: Oh, I got easiest question so far. Dr. Boskonovitch in “Tekken.” He can’t get up; it’s like a crippled old man, so you kind of just kick him away and walk off. It’s a real easy battle. Done.
SC: Tim Tebow. I don’t like him.
DA: Muhammad Ali. He was in that “King of the Ring” game. I think I could take him.
RB: See, these guys have challenges. I’m not into that whole deal.
A big part of YouTube is kind of collaborating with other people who do videos. Do you guys have any dream collaborations, any other YouTube talent you would like to work with?
RB: I always wanted to team up with the guy who jumps in the septic tank in “Septic Five.”
SC: [laughs] Stop it!
RB: Check out Septic 5.wmv; the guy submerges in a septic tank. I kind of wanted to see what ideas he has, so I’d be down for that.
DA: We were actually going to do that video ourselves. That guy beat us to the punch. We do have some ideas; we can up the ante. Septic Six coming out soon.
RB: Exactly. I feel like we watch more — maybe I am speaking for everybody and I shouldn’t be. I feel like we watch more things like that on YouTube versus personalities. We watch just a lot of things going wrong kind of clips and freaky stuff.
SC: The shorter the video, the better and the most pain you can fit in to the shortest amount of time, that’s our kind of video.
RB: Even I think it was just in the past few months we met the guys, I really like the guys at “5 Second Films,” and met them and Freddie Wong. All those guys, I like all those guys.
DA: There is a YouTube channel — I don’t even think it’s around anymore — it had maybe a year and a half ago, there was a short time, short just little era of brilliance coming out of this channel called “The Rapture Right.” They were great! Nobody even knows who these guys are; they don’t even post videos anymore, but when the BP oil spill happened they would just go around to gas stations and mess with people. It was super funny.
RB: They pretend to be a really hardcore Christian group.
DA: Like fundamentalist Christians.
RB: They put one out this year like one video where they protested the “Dark Knight Rising.” It actually got the title wrong and told everyone it was a non-Christian film and they shouldn’t go see it, and I think they actually prank called Christian Nolan’s film company during the video or something like that. Those guys are really cool, but they didn’t have many subscribers.
You guys have a video called “Modern Day Game Journalism The Movie,” and you guys kind of satirize game journalism as it is. I think the biggest example you guys use is “Uncharted 3.” IGN gave it like a 10 or something, but other people gave it 8s and they got a lot of heat for it. Obviously it’s a satire of modern game journalism, but do you guys think there is a real issue with modern game journalism?
RB: It’s just like I don’t even know how to word it exactly …
DA: I feel like at the time the issue that we felt was just everything was 8, 9 and 10. Everything was so polarized and black and white. Either a game rules and is going to blow your mind, or it’s an utter piece of shit.
RB: Like no one was using the scale that they made.
DA: And if you tried to use the scale people would tell you that you were doing it wrong. This game is better!
SC: A lot of times you know it would get an 8. I think it was “Uncharted 3,” and people were freaking out like, “You fucked up!” They haven’t played the game yet, they are criticizing the reviewer for giving it an 8, it’s just the whole system in general this is not working obviously. You can’t yell at someone for something you haven’t done yet.
RB: But that’s what’s exciting about video games is they’re still — with movies and stuff there is kind of this prevalent kind of like people are jaded and people are kind of like, “Oh, another superhero movie,” but video games there is still that excitement, you know? When things are coming out and that’s fun! But a lot of times it gets carried away and even amongst reviewers. We bring it up in the video, but you look at reviews of “Final Fantasy XIII” and it’s like this first wave of reviews are like, “This is the perfect game,” and no one says that now. It’s been a couple years, and people are just like, “Yeah well, I never liked that.”
DA: And plus with the internet there is rush to be first. You got to put your review out first before somebody goes to another site to read it, so I think a lot of people don’t have the time to reflect and digest what they’ve experienced, and you get a lot of snap judgements.