Boyce Avenue | Musicians

On family road trips, from their hometown of Sarasota to visit their friends and family in Miami, brothers Alejandro, Daniel and Fabian Manzano of Boyce Avenue spent their time singing as a way to pass the uneventful hours of travel. They sang everything — The Temptations, Boyz II Men, Lionel Richie, Whitney Houston — not yet aware that when they grew up, they would make a career out of the harmonies they created in the back seat.

While music has always been a passion for these three brothers — who don’t remember a time when music wasn’t a part of their lives — Alejandro, Fabian and Daniel did not officially form their band Boyce Avenue until 2004 following Daniel’s move back to Florida after he graduated from Harvard Law School. 3 years later, in an attempt to share their music with a broader audience, the guys decided to start uploading their covers to YouTube instead of signing with a record label.

Boyce Avenue has become one the most-viewed independent bands in the world thanks to the loyalty of their fans and popularity of both their cover and original songs on YouTube. In the short amount of time since the band’s inception, Alejandro, Fabian and Daniel have had the opportunity to go on numerous worldwide tours, collaborate with some of YouTube’s biggest talent and release 10 albums of both originals and cover songs. And yet, at the center of it all, these brothers have remained humble and extremely grateful to have experienced the kind of success they’ve had as a family of musicians.



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Of each of you in the group, who do you think would be the one to get lost on the way to a show?

Alejandro: Probably me.
Daniel: I would have to say the person most likely to get lost on the way to a show would be Alejandro. I think it’s partly being the youngest. We like to think he was very well taken care of by his older brothers.
Fabian: It seems like he gets a one track mind. When he’s focused on something he’s very focused on something, and 98 percent of the time he’s focused on music, so he is either probably thinking of a song and then the whole world around him disappears.
Daniel: He’d be listening to a song and end up in San Diego for our L.A. show [laughs].
Alejandro: I’d be a good song though, a long one too.

Which one of you would accidentally start a kitchen fire?

Alejandro: Probably Fabian. He had a little thing for pyro, not necessarily because of like the clumsy aspect. He’s actually a really good cook.
Fabian: Intentionally start a fire [laughs].
Daniel: I think Fabian would intentionally. Alejandro unintentionally [laughs].
Alejandro: Unintentionally yeah. That’s the difference.
Fabian: And I do like to cook. Daniel likes to cook a lot too. I think Daniel and I probably are the ones who would most likely be in the kitchen period.
Daniel: I don’t think Alejandro has ever used his kitchen. [Alejandro laughs]
Fabian: He just makes scrambled eggs is the only thing he cooks.
Alejandro: I’m a master of the microwave. And cereal pouring.I

Which one of you guys would get a spontaneous tattoo?

Fabian: Oh that’s easy.
Daniel: Fabian for sure.
Fabian: We kind of grew up just not sort of being into tattoos or being in that world, but lately I’ve been really, really thinking about it.
Alejandro: I think he leans towards it also from a more artistic standpoint.
Fabian: So I guess it wouldn’t be spontaneous; it would be an intentional tattooage but spontaneous I guess would be me too, because I tend — well, we all get wild, but I tend to get …
Daniel: Whims too. [Alejandro laughs]
Fabian: Yeah exactly.

What would you guys get if you were to get a tattoo?

Fabian: I know what I’m going to get, so I’m curious to see what their answers will be.
Daniel: I’d do something I think relating to my immediate family, something about your closest loved ones, something that’s either an inside joke or something that like has been a treasured memory forever and ever. I don’t know that I’d pick like an object or something like that. It’d be more about the meaning behind it, the message.
Alejandro: I’d probably do something music-related. I don’t know exactly what.
Fabian: The one I’ve been thinking about is actually just kind of has to do more with sort of the way we grew up. I don’t know why, but growing up as kids I always had this fascination with like Japanese culture, like we took karate as kids.
Daniel: We were ninjas [laughs].
Fabian: Yeah exactly, but like the samurai, that lifestyle of just being kind of humble, hardworking, and it would have something to do with Japanese culture.
Daniel: And he looks a little Asian [group laughs].


Which one of you guys would try and start your own dance floor at a party?

Daniel: We all probably aren’t great at that. It’s funny, we all actually love to dance — it’s a part of our culture, it’s a big part of our culture — but I don’t know if we have that personality for starting the dance thing as much as like we got to warm up to it and then find our way out onto the dance floor.
Alejandro: It has to be the right song too. Like sometimes if they just play the right MJ song, then it just works [group laughs].
Daniel: It’s got to be MJ.
Alejandro: Yeah, it almost has to be MJ.

Which one of you would probably spend your night writing music?

Daniel: That’s an interesting question. Alejandro is really into music, but it seems like inspiration has to hit for him, like he has to be in that mode.
Alejandro: Yeah, it comes in waves.
Daniel: In that zone, you know?
Fabian: All of us dabble in trying to write songs, but Alejandro is definitely like the lead singer-songwriter, so he does probably like on our next album 80 percent.
Daniel: Definitely writes the most.

What is something that inspires you guys?

Alejandro: I get a lot of inspiration from movies, and I think that’s mostly based behind — usually at least for me, you write about what you know, what you’ve experienced, whether it’s yourself or a friend, so I’ve always thought movies are fascinating, because I feel like as a creator if I’m doing that with songs then the writer or director is putting themselves into a movie, and that’s what they’ve experienced. So it’s like though it may be fiction-based, there is still some personal connection with a creator involved in the making of that movie, so like there is a lot to be learned from movies. I just have a strong connection with watching movies and trying to write a song about it.
Daniel: It kind of puts you in an emotional place, you know?
Alejandro: Yeah.
Daniel: Even if you haven’t, like he said, experienced something, you don’t have to have experienced everything to [be able] to write about it or feel for that person, so put yourself in their shoes.
Alejandro: I mean, in the same way that we’ve written songs about stuff that maybe somebody else hasn’t experienced, but I would still hope that as a creator we’ve done some sort of job of making them feel that whether they’ve experienced that or not.

Are there movies that have influenced specific songs that you guys have written?

Alejandro: Yeah, I mean one of my favorite movies is “Good Will Hunting,” and that was like kind of tied into “Broken Angel,” which is a really personal song for me. That’s a more specific one.
Fabian: I was just watching — it was a little while ago, and I forget what it was — it was the modern remake of “Snow White” or “Red Riding Hood,” it was one of those recent ones. I think Julia Roberts was the main bad girl, and after that movie was done, writing a song that was like based off kind of that vibe, but yeah, it’s just random I think. I get inspired by other bands too and music, and I’ll have waves; it comes in waves and cycles where like sometimes months go by, and I’m like not into it, there is not a lot of new music, and then it will come just all of a sudden where like there are all these different bands and CDs coming out, and I get in this mode where it’s like, “Okay cool, I got to ride this wave, go write some songs” kind of like. Then it’s easier too when there is that wave of a lot of music, because if you just listen to one song and you go try and write a song, you might actually unintentionally copy it. But if you just listen to a whole bunch of songs then like this weird, morphed version of all these songs kind of pops out.



When did you guys first start playing music?

Alejandro: It’s kind of like a family —
Fabian: We started singing first, I feel like, in family trips.
Alejandro: It was always something our family had a passion for. Nobody ever really took it to that professional level; it was more just like at family gatherings our grandfather played classical guitar, so we always all had a passion, including our parents, for music, so when we’d go on like a long road trip that was kind of like an interesting place, whether it was like road trips or church, that we would all find ourselves singing songs.
Fabian: We could always sort of tell. We were so young; we didn’t really know what like music even kind of was or what made a good musician or singer, but you could always kind of tell that Alejandro sounded more like what we were trying to sound —
Alejandro: [laughs] Whether it was Whitney Houston.
Fabian: There was something there.
Daniel: He sounds good, we sound bad. There is something going on there.
Fabian: And then from there we started to play instruments just to accompany our voice, just to have the whole package, and then it kind of like took off. I was 16, [Alejandro] was 14, Daniel was probably … it was a pretty natural progression after that.

What instruments did you guys pick up first?

Alejandro: Guitar was first. Yeah, acoustic guitar.

For all of you it was guitar?

Daniel: They started playing guitar, I kind of dabbled in a few different things. I was a little older and I had been in the orchestra, so for a little while I horribly accompanied them with the violin.
Fabian: The recorder.
Daniel: [laughs] Not the recorder. And then random percussion stuff, anything I could pick up basically just to jam and hang out with my brothers.
Fabian: Like a lot of times we’d go to visit family in Puerto Rico and we’d only have one guitar, but then Daniel and I would try and find other stuff to sort of fill out the sound.
 Daniel: Pots, pans, things like that.
Alejandro: It helped though. It was like a good team player, whether it was bass, recently the percussive box, we use a cajon, shakers, tambourine, miscellaneous stuff that would like help to enhance the sound. They would fill in and make things more interesting then like three acoustic guitars, so it’s kind of cool to have that diversity.

You guys have previously stated how it was important for each of you receive a college education. Why was this so important for you when you were passionate about music?

Daniel: That’s a great question. I mean, we always felt like in this day and age a lot of times you have to do a lot of things yourself. Nothing is obviously ever handed to you, and a lot of stuff these days is about how clever you can be about getting your message out there and finding your audience, and so for us we always felt like the more we could learn — the more we could pursue our education while doing music, never compromising one over the other — the better off we’d be. And at some point it just worked that we all kind of did what we felt like we needed to do as far as the academics and then were able to finally get together and just do music, but I think it’s really benefited us. Fabian did a lot of architecture and art-based studies in college, and that in the early days really helped with like editing our videos and knowing about the right softwares to use and stuff like that.

When was that moment you decided that you were going to pursue this full time?

Fabian: It was a natural progression I feel like. I remember August of 2008, like I had had a job that I had been working for about a year, and I left that job. That was like the same month and year that I got married, left my job, so that was kind of a specific date, August of ‘08 where we made it our full time job. But I think even well before that we knew it was something and it was going to be something.
Daniel: We had been recording songs and originals for a few years. We had already been doing YouTube for a year at that point. We had been approached by lots of labels, you know what I mean, we were somewhere, but I think in all of our minds that moment where we were all able to just do music, not do anything else, to be able to say like, “This is how we live and support ourselves, and this is what we do for life,” you know, that was a huge moment for us, and that was in fall of ‘08.

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How would you guys describe your musical style?

Alejandro: Very acoustic-driven, fairly organic. We do like musics of like all genres. We do like beats or whatever so we’re excited to put a little bit more energy in that regard on our upcoming album. But yeah, just very melodic; we always try to have like a pretty strong sense of melody whether it’s a harder song or it’s a stripped acoustic song.
Fabian: I feel like in general the word rock kind of applies because there is like electric guitars and drums and everything but it’s not like hard rock or metal. We usually refer to it as pop rock, or at least I do, ‘cause it’s rock but a little bit with more pop vocals and melodies and stuff, but I don’t know, it does vary. I think the second album is gonna be a little bit more like pop, like upbeat rock almost more like Killers style or —
Daniel: Maroon 5.
Fabian: Whereas our first album was really, really emotional, like it was some of the first songs we ever wrote just all stripped acoustic, really emotional songs, and I think this one might be a little bit more upbeat pop, but I’m not sure.

Do you guys have a song you feel connected to or that is a favorite from your first album?

Alejandro: Me, myself, I definitely connected to the song called “On My Way.” It was like just a song about like soulmates and meeting that special somebody in your life even though you haven’t met them yet, you don’t know them yet. So that’s a really personal one for me.
Daniel: For me it would be the song “Every Breath,” and it’s the first song that I ever wrote, so you always have some sort of emotional attachment, and in addition, it’s about kind of a personal topic about long distance relationships and making that work and how tough that can be. That’s something that’s really close to my heart.
Fabian: I don’t know. It’s tough for me. I have songs that we’ve written that I really like. I don’t know if lyrically they necessarily apply much to my personal experiences, but I mean I think a song that Alejandro wrote called “Dare to Believe” is one of the ones that at least when we play it live that moves me the most or that I can connect to, you know, or “Broken Angel.” I think we never had a sister growing up but we have a lot of close friends that are like sisters. Or even like Daniel’s wife growing up — when they got together I was really young, so she’s like a sister. I think I can relate to that song just ‘cause, I don’t know, it’s powerful to think of young girls not being treated well. I’d say either “Broken Angel” or “Dare to Believe.”

You guys have traveled all over the world — what have been some of the touring memories that have stood out the most?

Alejandro: It’s always tough to like narrow down a few. Touring is always one of our favorite things though to do.
Fabian: The first Philippines tour I think was pretty unbelievable. We were pretty young and raw. We were just sort of starting with the YouTube world and everything, and we ended up going to play for thousands of like really appreciative people. I think some of the best touring memories we’ve had, at least for me, the first one that pops out is probably our first Philippines tour. We went for like four or five days or something like that, a handful of shows, and I just remember like the first time that we walked on stage on the first show it was like inside a mall so it was indoors and just like the people screaming and the acoustics, it was crazy, like shook me. It was really nerve-racking but in a really good way. Tt was like, “What is happening!” There are thousands of people there.
Alejandro: ‘Cause you always hope for that, for something to move you or to be inspirational but I don’t think we could have ever imagined that kind of a reaction inside that mall, like it was just crazy. So many appreciative fans and they were waiting there for a while just because of the time that was set up between the time that we had to sound check and the time we could finally get out there, they were just all standing for like a few hours, and it was just like wow. Like that intense passion. That’s up there for us.
Daniel: We’ve had some great times in Europe as well. We did the EMAs which was huge in Belfast which is a city we love playing. It was like 17 thousand people, and to be a part of that right in front of city hall was amazing. We don’t do a lot of opening slots but we did the One Direction tour and their first big U.K. tour, and that was a great learning experience as far as all the young kids and just how passionate they were about the whole thing.
Alejandro: Yeah, from their fans to their crew, it was just like such a positive experience. Like everybody was just — ran such a tight ship and just learned a lot from that.
Fabian: And the guys were really cool, so we’ve had a lot of really cool experiences. Touring, like you said, Alejandro, is one of our favorite things in the world to do. It’s the best.

Do you guys have a favorite One Direction member?

Daniel: No. [Alejandro laughs]
Fabian: I like Zayn. I do. [group laughs] I don’t think they’ll care that we have favorites. I think they’re all very cool guys, and that was actually really fun to do that tour. I think when you go on a tour with another band you form this camaraderie, whether you’re the opener or you’re the headliner, you form this bond because you’re traveling together and putting on these shows or whatever, so we kind of became friends with all of them, but I think Zayn is cool. We’ve had some good conversations about art and tattoos.
Alejandro: Yeah, they have a lot in common.
Daniel: You guys really connect on that level. I can genuinely say I like all the guys equally just because, I don’t know, they all have a different side of their personality that like I can relate to or connect with or that we can joke or laugh about.
Fabian: This sounds so ridiculous! [laughs] I feel like a fangirl. There is something about each of them.
Daniel: They are such charming guys — who would I pick?
Fabian: You guys should put a little thought bubble with the pictures of the boys [laughs].


Do you guys ever have fangirl moments for anyone?

Daniel: Not really.
Fabian: I’ve always thought about that. Like man, who would, if I could meet anybody, who would I meet? It’s tough to some extent. I don’t know, you want to feel like you’re almost, there are people I want to have conversations with, but like I don’t know if I’d ever …
Daniel: We have huge respect for people, but I don’t know if I’d — like I would love to meet Katy Perry or Justin Timberlake or John Mayer.
Fabian: I’d like to meet Chris Martin.
Daniel: Chris Martin, he seems hilarious.
Alejandro: I’d like to think we wouldn’t be starstruck, ‘cause it’s more on like a respect level then like a fangirl level.

So there would be no screaming or squealing? Where would that happen?

Daniel: [group laughs] We’ve always been like that though; it’s not just like we are in the entertainment industry. We respect people and we want to get to know them for who they are and their thoughts, but there’s not this whole fangirl idolizing thing. Maybe we’re weird though.
Fabian: We grew up as huge, huge Goo Goo Dolls fans, and then there was that one year, there was a time that we opened up for them on a couple shows, and I think that was like kind of a fangirl moment at least for me just because it was like not only were we meeting them but we were sharing the stage with them and playing with them, and I just remember that was trippy for me because that’s about as big as it gets at that time. Legitimately they were like my favorite band of all time, and I was about to play a show with them and meet them and stuff, so that was a cool moment.
Daniel: For us that was huge.

If you guys could travel anywhere in the world right now where would you go?

Fabian: I’ve been wanting to go to Japan. Like I said earlier, it’s like a huge thing for us and we’ve just never been. The time has got to be right and we’d have to get an offer.

Where are you guys going on the 21st?

Alejandro: Just back home to Florida.
Daniel: And then four days later we go to Dubai show.

So you guys are just moving around all the time.

Fabian: Yeah.
Daniel: It has been a lot of down time. We’re trying to write the album, but it gets tough ‘cause I’m kind of like the schedule guy, so I get a little frustrated. It’s a good problem to have, but I get a little frustrated ‘cause like there is always something that comes up. We were supposed to write all month, and then the Streamys come up, songwriting, well that’s productive, but meetings in L.A., then straight to Dubai, and then we always have to keep the YouTube channel going, so it’s really like this constant stream of like being on both coasts and then doing occasional random shows that come up, but they’re all really cool opportunities, you know? We went and played for a charity in Pennsylvania, and we got to just kind of hang out and see a little bit more of the state and play a few shows. And now Dubai and then who knows after that.

Is that a challenge because two of you guys are married? Is it a challenge having your family all in Florida?

Daniel: It is! One of the things I’m the most proud of in this band or just being a part of this whole thing is just how family-oriented it is. The bands been very cool from the get-go about including family in a lot of everything we do, so anytime we do a tour, even if it’s three weeks or longer, usually our wives or girlfriends will come out for at least a week of it and that just helps so much, you know? And they’re just really patient; we’re really lucky, like me in particular honestly because I have three kids. For me, I have three kids and a wife who stays at home with three kids, and they are really young. We have basically, in the next month or two, they will be 5, 3, and 1. Really close, really young. So she crushes it when she’s back home, but you can imagine.
Alejandro: We are fortunate to have help from parents too. Like our parents and her parents you can tell they take care.

What ethnicity are you guys?

Alejandro: Puerto Rican.

Part Asian thing a family joke then?

Daniel: That was just a joke [laughs]. I’m sorry, dude, I’m sorry.
Fabian: We’ll go to like certain shows — during Houston and just afterwards at the meet and greet there was just a bunch of Asian fans or girls, and they were just all asking to take pictures. We’re joking that they just want pictures of me because people think I’m Asian [group laughs]. Yeah, we were at an airport that one time, and there was this guy that was like my exact mirror image; he was wearing the same shirt as me, the same pants, and we were standing next to each other, and he happened to be Asian. Like it just happens. And our favorite basketball team is the Houston Rockets, and they had Yao Ming, who is this 7 foot 6, huge Asian, and ‘cause I’m the tallest in our family they called me Yao Ming.
Daniel: It’s really all very mean.
Fabian: I mean, it’s not like making fun. I don’t mind looking Asian, but it’s just random and funny I guess.
Daniel: Well, we’re all brothers, so it’s like if he was a quarter, we’d be a quarter Asian too [group laughs].
Alejandro: Somehow the gene pool didn’t work that way.
Daniel: That’s why we think it’s entertaining I guess too, ‘cause we just don’t at all. I don’t think we look Asian at all, but maybe we do [group laughs].

Did you guys look alike when you were growing up?

Fabian: It’s crazy ‘cause all of Daniel’s kids look really similar, but I feel like us we all had different looks. Like Daniel had the slightly curlier black hair and fair skin, and then I was like a little darker with straight brown hair, and we’re all kind of different.
Daniel: It’s really weird. We feel like we all look really different. I genuinely think in our hearts that we feel that, but we get a lot of people thinking like, “Oh, you guys must be brothers.”
Fabian: And in some cases, twins, but that’s a stretch for me.
Daniel: People, come on! [laughs]
Alejandro: The fact that it happens is kind of eye opening. I guess it depends on who’s looking, I guess.
Daniel: We’ve kind of decided — I think a lot of it is that we don’t realize it’s in the mannerisms. Like a lot of times, like this, we’ll just all be like [shows arms folded across chest]. We do certain things that we don’t realize, and I think people can just spot it. The fact that we’re together, the fact that we have similar mannerisms, and we’re just close enough in looks, I think people just really get the voices thing.
Fabian: Our voices on the phone, Alejandro’s and mine, sound pretty similar. As kids we used to mess with people. Even my dad recently was like, “Dang, it still hits me sometimes,” because sometimes I’ll call and he thought it was Alejandro.
Alejandro: Well, it even fools me sometimes.
Fabian: But our singing voices for some reason didn’t [Daniel laughs]. I don’t get why our talking voices are similar, but our singing voices aren’t similar. It’s kind of stupid.


How do you think being brothers really added to the chemistry of your group as opposed to just three guys forming a band?

Daniel: I mean, I guess it’s the obvious thing. Like even just the tenor of our voices kind of goes together in a way where like I can sing harmonies with them and it may just naturally sound better than me singing harmonies with you or with somebody else, because there is something about our voices that is similar enough, and I’m sure you’re a beautiful singer [laughs]. That’s the obvious thing that helped, I think, but a lot of it’s also that we think alike, but we also kind of keep each other in check — it’s like a checks and balances system. We know each other just well enough where we’re not all on different pages and it just explodes, but we’re just different enough where we can actually make each of our stuff better. Alejandro, he’s our main songwriter, and it just comes really easily for him, but like for me, he’s really helped me as a songwriter because I have certain tendencies, and he can kind of help me with that. I’m finding that we can kind of help him sometimes.
Alejandro: It’s like a venn diagram.
Fabian: It’s like being similar but not the same.
Alejandro: Some of the circles connect. There is that middle portion where we all are the same. It’s very venn diagram-ish.

What opportunities do you think you’ve gotten from YouTube that you couldn’t have gotten as traditional artists?

Daniel: YouTube is like a venn diagram [laughs].
Fabian: I think the opportunities of YouTube are just that we’ve had more control, you know? You can almost create your own opportunities, take your own paths and stuff.
Alejandro: Along with that, I think the beauty of YouTube is [on] the level at which you can show your personality or your range as a musician or as whatever you want to showcase, whether you’re a comedian online or a director. With these videos you can kind of show a different side of you or whatever in each video. A lot of times, people, I feel like in all industries, may get defined or pigeonholed in just one thing based off of one hit song that they have, and everybody assumes that is them, that is them as an artist, but they have so much other stuff on their album or even stuff that didn’t make the album that they’d love to share. But in previous days, there wasn’t like a platform to share that kind of stuff, so that’s kind of the beauty of YouTube for me, whether it’s like something as instrument-based as like, “Oh, let’s for fun do a ukulele song. Let’s for fun do piano, do electric, do acoustic.” You have the opportunity to show your fans all those sides of you. That’s what I think is kind of the cool part about it.

What advice would you have for YouTube musicians looking to set themselves from all the content online?

Daniel: Yeah, it’s pretty insane. It’s really blown up. I think you have to kind of choose something that works and kind of stick with it. There’s a lot of times where we see people doing other things where we question what we do, ‘cause you always have to look in the mirror and think like, “How could we being doing what we do differently?” But we chose something that spoke to us, which was sticking to the acoustic vibe, and we’ve really just committed to that and that’s what we do, and I think people come to like rely on that. They want to come to your channel and know when they see that you’ve put out a video, it’s something that’s going to speak to them the way all your other videos have, and so I think it’s just to know yourself, know your sound, commit to it and really just work hard and be consistent.
Fabian: I think if each of your videos has like too different of a vibe, too schizophrenic kind of, it might get lost in the mix of all the other YouTube. But if you think about the whole package holistically, like you think long-term, okay, when I’m all said and done, and I’ve got 30 videos or whatever, if there is a common thread that ties all those together I think as a whole, as a band or as an artist, those 30 videos will tend to stick out a little bit more, just because even visually a lot of our videos tend to have that same sort of visual look to them, because if they all kind of look different, even when you’re just looking through YouTube thumbnails you just get lost. Think of having the vision long-term of like, okay, five years from now after this many videos, this is when I look back, this is the whole. It’s kind of like even what Coldplay does on a whole album cycle where the whole thing has like the same outfit, the theme, the color scheme, so when you look back they’re like, “Okay, cool. Those three years of our lives, these were the things,” not like every show’s different.
Daniel: For example, we signed an artist to our label, Hannah Trigwell — she’s this amazing young talent out of Leeds, U.K., and the way she does what she does is different than what we do, you know? And you can’t like do the same thing as somebody else. She has her own style, her own singing style, her own personality, and so the key is to try and figure out how she can kind of continue to try and get that across in her videos, and so it’s something we’re always thinking about. You got to kind of figure out who you are and really share that with people in a way that’s honest and consistent.

Does it seem crazy to look back and realize you’ve only been on YouTube for six years and all these opportunities have come from that?

Fabian: Yeah, it’s interesting.
Daniel: We go back and forth. Sometimes it feels like a long time, sometimes it feels just not very long at all.
Alejandro: Sometimes it feels like regular years, and then sometimes it’s like dog years, like YouTube years, where you’re like, “We’re so old.” But then other times we are like, “Man, but a lot of bands in five years don’t even come close to accomplishing what we have,” when you think about especially that we’ve done that on our own without a label, without a radio hit, without TV exposure, at most levels of being on MTV or VH1 and traditional senses.

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